CCF Episode Twenty-Eight: Concluding Our Discussion of Covenant Theology

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In this episode, JD and Billy sit down with Junior “The Big Dippa” Duran and Rene Del Rio to conclude their discussion of Covenant Theology: From Adam to Christ by Nehemiah Coxe and John Owen.

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Covenant Theology: From Adam to Christ by Nehemiah Coxe and John Owen

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Christian Liberty According to the 1689


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Grab your copy of The Baptist Confession and join JD and Billy as they discuss Christian liberty from a Reformed Baptist perspective.

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The Baptist Confession & The Baptist Catechism
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The Creedal Imperative by Carl Trueman (paperback)

Creedal ImperativeThe Creedal Imperative by Carl Trueman

Paperback: 208 pages

Publisher: Crossway; (September 30, 2012)

Language: English

ISBN-10: 1433521903

ISBN-13: 978-1433521904

 

 

 

Summary:

What if “No creed but the Bible” is unbiblical?

The role of confessions and creeds is the subject of debate within evangelicalism today as many resonate with the call to return to Christianity’s ancient roots. Advocating for a balanced perspective, Carl Trueman offers an analysis of why creeds and confessions are necessary, how they have developed over time, and how they can function in the church of today and tomorrow.

 

 

Reviews:

CredoCovenant Review – Billy Leonhart

“How might creedal and confessional commitments jeopardize the protestant commitment to Sola Scriptura? Are such commitments not tantamount to the elevation of tradition to the level of, if not above, Scripture itself? Will not such commitments in essence render the church irrelevant in this modern age? Whatever happened to ‘no creed but the Bible’? Carl Trueman, Professor of Church History at Westminster Theological Seminary (Philadelphia, PA.), seeks to answer these questions and more in The Creedal Imperative. In this book, Trueman argues that ‘creeds and confessions are, in fact, necessary for the well-being of the church’ (20).” Read more…

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IX Marks Review – Peter Hess

“In The Creedal Imperative, Carl Trueman argues that, if a church hopes to ‘follow the pattern of the sound words’ that has been entrusted to it (2 Tim. 1:13), that church requires a robust confessionalism.” Read more…

 

The Aquila Report – Aimee Byrd

“Apparently, this book is too cool for a subtitle. Carl Trueman has a market on cool by rebelling against cool. Especially skinny jeans. But I digress. I’m thinking something like, ‘The Indicatives are Imperative.’ But that’s just me. Does your church catechize or teach with creeds? Sure it does. Trueman makes the case that all churches and all people have a creed, whether they admit it or not. ‘No creed but the Bible’ just doesn’t exist, and is a creed in itself (maybe that’s a good subtitle).” Read more…

 

The Blog (Founders) – Tom Hicks

“With Christianity on the wane in Western culture, some leaders have urged Christians to deemphasize secondary doctrines in order to stand united on gospel essentials.  Our numbers are too small, they say, for Christians to continue nit picking at each other on long disputed matters of theology.  Let me suggest, however, that doctrinal minimalism is the wrong approach, especially at this time.  While all true Christians should stand united for the advancement of Christ’s kingdom and against the rising specter of secularism, this is not the time to sideline secondary doctrines of the faith.  Now, more than ever, we need robust, thoroughly biblical expressions of Christianity.  We need an encyclopedically confessional faith.” Read more…

 

CCF Episode Twenty-Four: Christian Liberty According to the 1689 (Part Two)

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In this episode, JD and Billy sit down to discuss Christian Liberty in light of The Baptist Confession. Featuring music from Nora Bayes

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For further study on the history of alcohol in America and the history of the use of grape juice in communion listen to this sermon delivered by Arden Hodgins.

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CCF Episode Twenty-Two: The Trueman Show

In conjunction with The Confessing Baptist, JD and Billy sit down with Dr. Rev. Carl Trueman to discuss his book The Creedal Imperative. Featuring music from Shai Linne and Redeemer INdy.

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For further discussion of The Creedal Imperative, check out these episodes and my book review from earlier in 2014.

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CCF Episode Twenty-One: The Gospel According to the 1689

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In this episode, Billy and JD sit down to discuss the gospel as it is summarized in The Baptist Confession.

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There is a chapter in The Baptist Confession called “Of the Gospel and the Extent of the Grace Thereof.” Quite a mouthful, ay? Anyway, I just wanted to make note of it, since we really didn’t take time to explore it in this episode. It’s there. Perhaps the reason we don’t spend a whole lot of time on discussing that one chapter is because we see it primarily as functioning as a type of summary of the confession itself, insofar as the confession is a summary of the gospel and its implications. Anyway, if you’d like more reading on this chapter, check this out from Dr. Bob Gonzales:

This chapter on “the gospel” is not found in the Westminster Confession. The Congregationalists added this chapter to the Savoy Declaration, and the Baptists incorporated it into their Confession.” Read more…

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The Baptist Confession & The Baptist Catechism
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Book Review: The Creedal Imperative by Carl Trueman

Many of you are no doubt aware that we have already traversed much of the subject matter of The Creedal Imperative over at The CredoCovenant Fellowship. Hopefully my review of it here will inspire a few more to pick a copy of it and read along with us in those episodes.

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Trueman, Carl R. The Creedal Imperative. Wheaton: Crossway, 2012. 197pp. $16.99.

molesworth_reasonably_smallHow might creedal and confessional commitments jeopardize the protestant commitment to Sola Scriptura? Are such commitments not tantamount to the elevation of tradition to the level of, if not above, Scripture itself? Will not such commitments in essence render the church irrelevant in this modern age? Whatever happened to “no creed but the Bible”? Carl Trueman, Professor of Church History at Westminster Theological Seminary (Philadelphia, PA.), seeks to answer these questions and more in The Creedal Imperative. In this book, Trueman argues that “creeds and confessions are, in fact, necessary for the well-being of the church” (20).

Summary

The scope of Trueman’s argumentation is fairly broad sweeping for such a short work (only six chapters). He first approaches the issue from a humanities standpoint exploring some of the key issues in contemporary culture that touch on his topic. Then, in keeping with his academic expertise, he begins a slow and steady trek through biblical and church history mining for principles and events that lend themselves to his thesis. Then, he turns to an examination of the doxological benefits of creeds and confessions before finally concluding with some of the practical and theological benefits he sees in them.

Examining the Other Side

Trueman begins his argumentation in Chapter One by examining some issues in the broader culture to help his readers understand the cultural undercurrents that may, perhaps even unbeknownst to them, be influencing the way they relate to creeds and confessions. He begins by laying on the table three concepts commonly held to be true by those who subscribe to creeds and confessions: the importance and relevance of the past, the propriety of language in the transmission of truth across time and space, and the necessity of an institution that speaks with authority (22-23). He then walks his readers through the modern and postmodern landscape of ideas to demonstrate how all three of these concepts are systematically opposed to the way the contemporary culture in the West has been conditioned to think about the world.

A Stroll through History

Trueman proceeds to walk his readers through history seeking to provide a basis for creedal and confessional subscription. He begins by arguing from a survey of biblical history for the importance of words in redemptive history, the universality of human nature, and the rightful place of the church as an authoritative institution. Given these three premises, he concludes that the church has the obligation and the authority to use a “form of sound words” (creeds and confessions) to speak to man’s common condition. He then traces out a history of the development of creeds in the life of the early church, demonstrating how each one was meant to provide a further clarification upon the original Christian creed: “Jesus is Lord.” Finally, in Trueman’s historical survey, he examines a selection of the most influential Protestant confessions and the marks they bore on the churches that adopted them.

The Benefits

The last two chapters of the book deal primarily with the usefulness of the creeds and confessions for the church. Chapter five explores the doxological benefit of creeds and confessions, while in chapter six Trueman seeks to cover a broad array of other benefits creeds and confessions carry. To bookend the book, Trueman includes an introduction and a conclusion as well as an appendix on revising and supplementing creeds and confessions.

Critical Evaluation

The Creedal Imperative was not meant to deal with an entirely original subject matter. The argument for the necessity and usefulness of creeds and confessions is nothing new. However, where other works have sought to be more exhaustive and academic in their approach, or where older works present themselves with much more archaic language, Trueman has offered the millennial generation something much more pithy and accessible.

His trademark cultural commentary and his masterful use of wit and illustration in the first chapter grabs readers’ attention from the start. However, there is a sharp drop in rhetorical form from chapter one to chapter two. The Trueman-esque humor and wit that the casual reader of the Reformation21 blog has come to expect only reemerges in tiny flashes here and there throughout the rest of the book. Arguably, this approach is commendable in that the author’s personality takes a backseat to the delivery of the intended content.

Regarding the fifth chapter, “Confession as Praise,” the author might have been more forthright in titling the chapter “Creeds in Worship,” because he spends the bulk of the chapter building a case for the recitation of creeds in liturgy. His argument is based on the fact that creeds and confessions provide the theological foundation for doxology. In the end, Trueman does not claim that it is imperatival that creeds and confessions be used in the order of worship at church meetings, but in his words, “The question is not so much ‘Should we use them?’ as ‘Why would we not use them?’” (158). Trueman is not legalistic about his liturgical commitments, but one might argue that such a strong suggestion falls just shy of a direct imperative seeming to equate confessional Christianity with liturgical, high-church Christianity.

Also dispersed throughout the book are Trueman’s trademark warnings about the dangers of evangelicalism. Trueman is not reserved in declaring his conviction that confessional Christianity and evangelicalism find themselves at odds with one another. He argues that evangelical minimalism sends the message to Christians “that issues such as baptism are of minor importance, and that the matters which divide denominations are trivial and even sinful in the way they keep Presbyterians and Baptists from belonging to the same church” (46-47). He also takes issue with the pairing of the terms “confessional” and “evangelical” to describe the same object. He argues:

What we have today in confessional evangelical circles is rather an eclectic pick ‘n’ mix approach to classical confessional Protestantism, where those matters which seem helpful to building a broad evangelical parachurch consensus are highlighted and those matters which divide—and have always divided Protestants—are set to one side as of less importance (132).

Finally, Trueman does well in arguing that an adherence to creeds and confessions does not lead to an abandonment of Sola Scriptura. Rather, it actually aids churches in understanding what they mean when they use such terms. One can claim “no creed but the Bible,” but through what grid then does one interpret the Bible? The answer is obvious. Everyone who sets themselves to the task of Bible interpretation inevitably falls back on some creed or another, whether written or implied. At least with confessional churches, their doctrinal and hermeneutical standards are put in writing for all to see and criticize. However, for those who claim “no creed but the Bible,” there is no such accountability. They can interpret the Bible however they see fit, with as much variation from week to week as seems best to them. In this way, creeds and confessions help explain what churches mean when they claim Sola Scriptura, and they provide a safeguard against those who would abuse it for whatever reason and to whatever end.

Conclusion

Overall, Trueman makes very strong arguments for his case that creeds and confessions are not only beneficial for the church today, but they are also necessary. He touches on a wide array of issues relating to the issue of creedal and confessional subscription. His work is neither original nor exhaustive, but it is nonetheless important. In its construction, it commends itself to both the layman and the academician. At once it is both witty and devotional, both provocative and informative, both succinct and broad-scoped. Finally, it is difficult to over-emphasize the importance of its subject matter for the Christian church in the West today.

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CCF Episodes 3-8: The Creedal Imperative by Carl Trueman

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The Creedal Imperative
by Carl R. Trueman

CCF Episode Eight: Wrapping Up The Creedal Imperative

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In this episode, JD and Billy are joined by Jack DiMarco, Rene Del Rio, Pastor Jason Delgado, and Junior “Big Dippa” Duran to wrap up our discussion of The Creedal Imperative by Carl Trueman. Featuring music from Bernard Herrmann and Timothy Brindle (feat. Shai Linne).

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How to Read a Book
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CCF Episode Seven: The Ecclesiastical Benefits of Creeds and Confessions

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In this episode, JD and Billy sit down with Pastor Jason Delgado, Junior “Big Dippa” Duran, Rene Del Rio, and Jack DiMarco to discuss the last few chapters from The Creedal Imperative by Carl Trueman. Featuring music from Katy Bowser and Odd Thomas.

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